Ep #396: The Joys and Challenges of Coming Out Later in Life with Anne-Marie Zanzal & Barbara Rowlandson

Podcast_396_ComingOutWhat you’ll learn from this episode about the joys and challenges of coming out later in life:

  • What joys and challenges are like when coming out later in life.
  • What catalyst experiences can be like for you related to coming out later in life.
  • What it looks like to know you need to get out of your comfort zone to explore what you know you need to explore.
  • What it’s like to trust yourself to be curious.
  • What conquering fear looks like in reality later in life.
  • Why finding your community can change everything for you in a positive way.
  • Why having clarity around what you need in relationships can make it easier to embrace.
  • What it’s like to ask yourself about potential regrets for not being curious.
  • Why the changes you’re making about your new life are likely to come in incremental steps.
  • Why fighting who you are creates incredible stress.

Welcome to Another Episode of the Women in the Middle Podcast

Today’s episode is about the joys and challenges of coming out later in life.

My interview is with two women who both realized something about themselves after long term marriages and children.

My guests are Anne-Marie Zanzal and Barbara Rowlandson; they are the team from Lotus Group Coaching and they both came out later in life as lesbians.  

Anne-Marie was 52 and Barb was 46 when they came out.  No, they are not a couple but work colleagues.  Anne-Marie is a graduate of Yale Divinity School, an ordained minister in the progressive United Church of Christ, a hospice chaplain, a bereavement counselor, a coming out expert, and a divorce coach.

Barbara Rowlandson is an author, coach, producer, and content strategist with Anne-Marie Zanzal Coaching. She is a graduate of the University of Toronto and currently earning a Master of Counseling Psychology at Yorkville University. She is also a Humanist Officiant with the Ontario Humanist Society, providing Humanist life services in the Simcoe County, Muskoka, and Kawartha Lakes regions of Ontario, Canada.

Anne-Marie and Barb have used their experiences as later in life lesbians to help thousands of women come out and embrace their authentic ideas through Anne-Marie’s podcast Coming Out & Beyond, coaching, and prodigious content production about the later in life experience.

Don’t miss this episode!

Connect with Anne-Marie Zanzal and Barbara Rowlandson

https://annemariezanzal.com/

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https://www.linkedin.com/in/annemariezanzal/

https://www.instagram.com/annemariezanzalcoaching/

https://www.facebook.com/amzanzal

Book a Discovery Call with Barbara Rowlandson: https://calendly.com/barbararowlandson/35min

New Community – Authentically Us

This is a supportive and empowering space for women (trans, cis, nb) in the LGBTQIA+ community. Whether we are questioning our sexuality at any time of life, navigating the messy middle, or well along on our life’s journey, this is a place to connect, share experiences, and grow together. Let’s walk this path together—because you’re never alone in your journey to self-discovery and love. We are in this together.

CLICK HERE FOR MORE INFORMATION: https://community.annemariezanzal.com/landing?space_id=17760704

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